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Egg color

Postby wbrewski on Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:42 am

Guys, what is the best color of cured salmon eggs for steelhead.
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Re: Egg color

Postby greg on Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:10 am

Pinks, oranges and reds. never underestimate colors like pink lady and oregon cheese. :)
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Re: Egg color

Postby klamathsteel on Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:12 pm

I prefer natural = no color. Hard to beat the old 1 2 3 cure. ;)
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Re: Egg color

Postby hollywood on Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:28 pm

I have a feeling that good ol RGB is nothing like 1 2 3 cure! ;)
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Re: Egg color

Postby osmosis on Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:45 pm

Ingredient list, and chemical + amino balances aside - I've tried some funky things with eggs. Green, chartreuse, blue, black, purple, red, orange, pink, natural you name it.
Black and purple never seemed to work well but the green chart and blue eggs all worked pretty well. some spots a dozen guys would be pounding the hole with red and pink eggs under floats and we'd sneak a fish out with some odd colored eggs. It generally doesn't hurt to think outside the box when it comes to salmon and steel fishin!
Now "best" is very individual and impossible to answer as it's very application specific. Changes from time of year to location to conditions ect. In low clear I feel as a generality natural is best. when you get some color goin on the mild pinks and reds shine. average winter and spring conditions where I fish I like some good bright reds and pinks.

There's a time and place for most everything on the shelves at the tackle shop, I say most cause some of it is there just to catch us!
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Re: Egg color

Postby HAMBONE on Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:22 pm

Well said Chad. I think Barry keeps the OMG its the RGB cure close to his vest. :D

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Re: Egg color

Postby dew on Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:22 pm

osmosis wrote:Ingredient list, and chemical + amino balances aside - I've tried some funky things with eggs. Green, chartreuse, blue, black, purple, red, orange, pink, natural you name it.
Black and purple never seemed to work well but the green chart and blue eggs all worked pretty well. some spots a dozen guys would be pounding the hole with red and pink eggs under floats and we'd sneak a fish out with some odd colored eggs. It generally doesn't hurt to think outside the box when it comes to salmon and steel fishin!
Now "best" is very individual and impossible to answer as it's very application specific. Changes from time of year to location to conditions ect. In low clear I feel as a generality natural is best. when you get some color goin on the mild pinks and reds shine. average winter and spring conditions where I fish I like some good bright reds and pinks.

There's a time and place for most everything on the shelves at the tackle shop, I say most cause some of it is there just to catch us!



plain borax for me, nothing more nothing less. from what you are saying, to me the fish are keying in on the color so why waste the time coloring all those eggs.(just my $.02) add a tuffed of yarn and or a puff ball and your good to go. (old school rocks)
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Re: Egg color

Postby HAMBONE on Sun Nov 21, 2010 7:28 am

I totally agree with Dew, keep it simple. I find most things you find on the store shelf catch more fisherman than fish. They have to sell their product and guess what, THIS PRODUCT OUT PERFORMS everything else out their. [-X

I use PRO-CURE Wizard which gives you an excellent product. Again keep it simple............. :)

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Re: Egg color

Postby dew on Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:54 am

ham, do u use that cure on your steelhead bait? the reason i ask, is i've always read and heard steelhead don't like sulfite based cures. they say u can't teach a dog new tricks. but i'll try anything once
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Re: Egg color

Postby hollywood on Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:30 pm

I can say that the cure we use has various chemicals in it and catches fish when the natural does not work! :D There is a place and a time for both though. ;)
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Re: Egg color

Postby Tallon69 on Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:08 pm

I use pautzke bait Fire cure, and Borax O' fire. The borax has krill in it. It's ready available here as the Pautzke bait plant is here in my home town. The fire krill comes in natural, red, pink, and orange, although all I've ever used is the natural. They have some good vid's on the curimg process, but it's pretty much the same for most the formulas out there.
http://www.pautzke.com/products_borxofire.php
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Re: Egg color

Postby HAMBONE on Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:44 pm

Chad, I too struggle with the natural. It just doesn't look right for me. I go with my gut on most things and natural I'm sure will work fine. It just doesn't for me. I like a nice orange/red color that is rich looking. It's what I have confidence in and I stick with it all the time. When I was younger I would use natural fishing behind redds. Now days I have some issues doing that.

Dew, I don't use the same. When I wrote the post I wondered if anyone would pick up on the difference. There is, and one should not use eggs cured with chemicals on steelhead in my opinon. They work, BUT.........

Steelhead have a sweet tooth and they love sugar of some sort. I have my favorite sugar and it works great. I would have said what it is but I was sworn to secrecy when it was told to me. A man is only as good as his word, right? You really can't go to wrong using this.

STEELHEAD CURE

* 1 cup White granulated sugar
* 1 cup Non iodized Salt
* 1 cup Pro-Cure Borax ( plain white or colored)
* Fluorescent dye if desired ( 1/8 to 1 tea.)



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Re: Egg color

Postby dew on Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:23 pm

great topic guys. it go's to show you that everyones "secret" cure catches fish, and is only secret when it's catching fish. put i honestly believe color is more important than the eggs themself. why are yarnies so productive? maybe it's the neutral buoyancy. i think it's color. i never fish eggs alone.(for steelhead) i always have yarn or a puff ball, and i'm always changing colors. last winter they would'nt leave a lime green puff ball alone.
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Re: Egg color

Postby HAMBONE on Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:37 am

Very good point Dew! I could not agree more on the yarn.

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Re: Egg color

Postby archer on Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:31 am

Especially when it UV yarn :)
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